• Andrew_M_Swallow

    Is this a documentary or a SF drama?

  • Cameron

    Or as comedy? Or all of the above?

  • Smokey_the_Bear

    It’s a comedy, but the trailer reveals diddly squat.
    I know Steve Carell is as far left as you can get, so I’m hoping it isn’t just a Trump bashing show.
    I really like The Office, but I can’t figure out how you can make this a TV show.

  • duheagle

    As the late George S. Kaufman wrote, “Satire is what closes Saturday night.”

  • Andrew Tubbiolo

    Lefty’s make good programming. Sometimes their about 60 years early. This gem, is strangely on topic in 2019, and even this blog. I hope they do a good job with this series, the subject matter with current history is ripe for great comedy.

  • ThomasLMatula

    They will probably bring in UFOs, Aliens and Area 51, otherwise it will too boring for entertainment, just a bunch of folks sitting in front of consoles monitoring satellites.

  • nathankoren

    I really hope they get some genuine space, military, and political folks on their writing team. Has the potential to be really good if they do, and truly cringe worthy if they don’t.

    Recently, HBO’s Silicon Valley and an Australian show called Utopia or Dreamland (depending on the market), about an urban development quango, have done excellent jobs of satirising their respective domains in a way that is even funnier to those *within* those domains. So there are good models to follow.

  • Andrew Tubbiolo

    You’re probably right. American satire has lost it’s depth, and much of its edge. American’s don’t know enough history or understand the other guy’s intellectual stances let alone their own to appreciate good satire. When I saw this my first thought was something along the lines of “The Pentagon Wars” would be good.

  • Lee

    Not to mention that in the US, aka “The United States of the Offended”, anything you say or make light of will no doubt offend some very vocal minority, which will then crucify you for having said it. No one can take a joke here anymore.

  • duheagle

    The death of satire is among the many bitter fruits of political correctness and the general Miss Grundy-ism that has become normative on the left. Ironic too, considering that much of the best American satire was written by people who were leftists in their own times. Much of Tom Lehrer’s ouevre, for example, is still hilarious but also unperformable in public any longer given the pervasiveness of the SJW-Kultur-Stasi. Try to imagine anyone, especially anyone white, performing ‘In Old Mexico’ today.

  • duheagle

    I wouldn’t call it a gem, myself, but it is typical of the kind of early-phase leftist kulturkampf that was creeping into film and TV as early as the late 40’s. In your example, small-towners are portrayed as clueless gulls, ripe for the plucking by the nefarious and fraudulent forces of unbridled commerce but for the heroics and steadfastness of a lone representative of Mother State.

    The most prestigious example of this sort of codswallop was almost certainly High Noon, – screenplay by Carl Foreman, communist and member of the Hollywood 10 – in which small-towners are portrayed as uniformly cowards and shirkers of responsibility saved only by the pluck and ingenuity of another nearly-lone representative of Mother State.

    Some variation of this meme has been either central to or significant in a lot of well-known and admired Westerns and period dramas. There’s The Rainmaker and Elmer Gantry and even The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance and Tombstone, the latter two of which I actually like despite their occasional memetic and historical lapses. The list could go on far longer than I have the patience to type.

    The actual West was, of course, nothing like this. Still, the meme of a gang of bad guys riding in and “treeing a town” seems immortal. Never mind that when the James-Younger gang rode into Northfield, MN aiming to rob its banks, the ordinary townsmen picked up their nearby rifles and, as Louis L’Amour’s heroes were wont to say, “shot them to doll rags.”

    More seriously, your linked Trackdown episode is, in many ways, both inside out and upside down as a metaphor for the present day. Among the most egregious devious con men of our own time braying about a phony End of the World, for example, are left-wing “climate scientists.” Our Trump is their opponent.

    If the fictional Walter Trump’s alleged danger from “meteors and comets” is supposed to represent the presumptively fake danger facing the U.S. in space from potential enemy action against our considerable base of military assets deployed there, the comparison falls rather flat. But then it is emblematic of the left that it is obsessed with alleged dangers that either don’t exist or aren’t important and dismissive of actual dangers that do and are.

  • duheagle

    In a different world the producers might hire someone like multiple Star Trek series alum Andre Bormanis who, based strictly on his IMDB entry, seems to be at liberty after some work on The Orville. But I wouldn’t hold my breath. Steve Carell is not exactly Mr. Subtlety and Nuance. I anticipate a cringe-worthy anti-Trump slagfest that will likely fail to find an audience.

  • duheagle

    Unfortunately, not being able to figure out how to make something a TV show hasn’t proven to be much of a barrier to entry for a lot of producers. One could go back as far as My Mother the Car, then carry forward to, and beyond, Lost with innumerable other stops along the way.

  • duheagle

    Given that ‘Steve Carell’ and ‘The Office’ feature prominently in the “trailer,” I think I am safe in saying it will be neither.

  • Andrew Tubbiolo

    Yes, we’ve set aside the racism of the majority to make room for the racism of the minority.

  • Andrew Tubbiolo

    Yup, I’m not going to argue with you on that front. Tom Lehrer is awesome. Another great American who would not be tolerated is Mel Brooks.

  • duheagle

    Yes. One could get a pretty good comedy script by just imagining the pitch meeting at which someone tried to get Blazing Saddles made today – except that that movie would probably be unmakeable too.

  • Andrew Tubbiolo

    It sure would. Good storyline.

  • Merisea

    “Among the most egregious devious con men of our own time braying about a phony End of the World, for example, are left-wing “climate scientists.” Our Trump is their opponent.” Thank you for playing. You will receive a home version of our game.

  • Merisea

    How then would you explain the success of “Crazy Rich Asians,” not to mention that “The Producers” became a Broadway play and is still touring?

  • Andrew Tubbiolo

    People in small towns are gullible because people are gullible. If you have not lived a long time, read a lot of biographies, autobiographies and positional papers put out by leaders and schools of thought then measured those against how events played out, you’re going to be gullible. People are conditioned to respond to death threats by authority figures. It feeds our nationalism and our militarism.When I tell people I work in asteroid detection time after time they start talking about how they think asteroid detection should be a priority. A defense priority. And time and time again, I talk it down, and explain how it’s a problem with a very long time scale and that the real payoff for us now is our deepening understanding of how we don’t really know what the extents and make up of the solar system. Then, they return to the threat subject. There’s no turning it off. They want me to talk up the ‘asteroid threat’ they love it, and they want me to entertain them with stories of looming danger. Leaders and con men know that all they need to do is have a little charisma and talk about some threat or another, and they’ll get an audience.

  • Lee

    Not sure exactly what that means, but I was thinking of the same things you and Eagle were… Things like Tom Lehrer bits and Mel Brooks movies.

  • ThomasLMatula

    Because it’s still acceptable to make fun of the Third Reich and California still has an issue with Asians being so successful.

    https://www.flexcollegeprep.com/uc-admission-still-getting-harder-for-asians-from-ca/

    UC Admission Still Getting Harder For Asians From CA

    “This news is particularly bleak for Asian-Americans, who already fight
    greater odds to get accepted into the UC’s. Consider the following
    Princeton University study, which demonstrates the impact of race on
    admissions. The UC’s give “bonus” points to students’ SAT scores based
    on race. An African-American student will receive a 230 point bonus. A
    Hispanic student will receive 185. An Asian-American student, on the
    other hand, is penalized 50 points.”

  • duheagle

    Thanks for admitting that place of residence isn’t seriously implicated in one’s degree of gullibility. Urban leftists, for example, are pretty much in uniform agreement that Climate Change is going to doom us all unless Something is Done Real Soon Now. They also believe Trump is a tool of Putin. The fact that neither of these beliefs is true has no real influence on the extent to which they are believed.

  • duheagle

    I’ll be sure to add that to my next load destined for Goodwill.

  • windbourne

    Considering that Carell has not had many failures, and trump is not what you call popular by any means, I suspect that your last sentence is dead wrong.

  • duheagle

    I’m sure Trump is not popular in your little corner of the world. The world is big. Your corner of it is not.

  • windbourne

    Trump is not even popular in America, let alone the world (except for Russia).

  • windbourne
  • Smokey_the_Bear

    Yeah, there is a reason why I’m no producer…heck, if someone pitched me a TV show about a bunch of office workers, I would’ve called them an idiot, and get outta my office! lol

  • Merisea

    I’m not going to spar on this site about politics, because our host has asked us not to.