New Poll: What Do We Call Passengers Who Fly to 80 Kilometers?

New poll on Twitter.

Remember: vote early! Vote often. Just vote, dammit! Vote!

  • Ignacio Rockwill

    Passengers. Or maybe we just don’t call them anything at all.

  • Mr Snarky Answer

    Nobody cares. Sub-orbital is rarified atmosphere either way. If you had to peg to a ppm value it swings around anyway (depending on local conditions). Either side of an arbitrary line is a distiction without a difference. I mean does anyone really think some magic happens at 100 clicks? And yea what a coincidence that this magic happens at a round 100…that was convenient.

    And by the way this isn’t an endorsement of dopey SS2 and hybrid tire fire either just who gives a crap? You know what isn’t an arbitrary value? 6.5–8.2 km/s

  • Terry Rawnsley

    Let us vote here. I’m not on Twitter. At any rate, they’ll just be passengers unless they are flying the spacecraft instead of just sitting in the back enjoying the view. “Astronaut wings?” I’m sure you’ll be able to buy them by the case on ebay!.

  • Mark

    Can’t we just point and laugh at them for spending so much and not even making it to space?

  • Emmet Ford

    hybrid tire fire

    Nice one. Mr. Snarky, bringing the snark.

    What do we call passengers who fly to 80 kilometers? If they are flying on Spaceship 2 then I’d call them people with a death wish, judging by the way that thing wobbles on the knife edge of disaster during powered flight. Wait for Blue Origin, if this is a thing that you feel you must do. You’ll get a safer ride to a higher altitude for a similar price.

  • duheagle

    “Astronaut” does seem a bit grand an appellation for rich thrill seekers. On the other hand, your criterion would exclude most Shuttle mission crew members from astronaut status too. Only two people of the up to seven who flew on each Shuttle mission had anything to do with actually “flying” the vehicle. And there is that USAF precedent anent the X-15 and 50 miles altitude plus recent noises from FIA about perhaps adopting the essentially equivalent standard of 80 klicks rather than 100 as “the lower edge of space.”

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  • Robert G. Oler

    wow just got home from teaching my course on the B77X (which the Boeing folks are loving) 🙂 and saw on the tube that Branson is about to launch what 1 hour


  • Terry Rawnsley

    Shuttle crewmembers were all essential to the mission – unless you count the occasional Senator or foreign prince. The folks in the back of SS2 are still just passengers. I would hope that we will view “astronauts” as people whose job can only be done in space. We don’t call airline passengers “aviators” nor ship passengers “sailors.” As for whether 51.4 miles is technically “space” or not – that’s above my pay grade.

  • Arthur Hamilton

    LEO Astronaut pilot, LEO Astronaut Crew Member and Spaceflight passenger. ( Pilot & crew are LEO veterans).

    BEO/LEO Astronaut Pilot, BEO/LEO Astronaut Crew Member, Spaceflight Passenger. (Pilot & crew are LEO/BEO Veterans).

    Sub Orbital Astronaut Pilot, Sub Orbital Astronaut Crew Member & Spaceflght Passenger. (Until pilot & crew achieves LEO orbit for the first time).

  • publiusr

    near space passengers.

    Or….. Space-Ascent Passengers….SAPS

  • Terry Rawnsley

    I wouldn’t give them a special designation (or wings.) Hopefully, we will be transporting people into orbit and beyond either for pleasure or business and I’d hate to see “SAP’s” given any type of special recognition based solely on their ability to afford a mode of transportation financially unavailable to most of us. Let’s save the titles for those who have a real job.